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hodlonaut37d ago
Is one of the main arguments against bip-110 that not enough people support it? Would some of the “reckless” and “dangerous” criticism go away if support was much higher? And would that criticism then deservedly go towards Core and v30 instead?
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GFY37d ago
ENLIGHTENING VIEWPOINT. NO WONDER YOU DEVELOP ON IOS
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jb5537d ago
I develop on all platforms, is this your best insult? boring.
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GFY37d ago
NO YOUR TAKE ON BIP110 IS BORING. YOU BEND THE KNEE TO CRAPPLE, HAVE FUN STAYING IRRELEVANT
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jb5537d ago
apparently everyone who builds an ios app is bending the knee to apple, god it.
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atyh37d ago
this is disappointing. every cycle of bobblehead uprising uses the same recycled insults. there are AI tools available which might help them to appear more creative.
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jb5537d ago
the argument already happend and your team lost
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hodlonaut37d ago
I don’t have a team. I’m a concerned bitcoiner looking for the best way to make a principled stand that Bitcoin is money and not data storage. And saying the argument is over is clearly plain wrong.
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jb5537d ago
are you an engineer who works on the protocol? i don't know a single repuatable bitcoin engineer who takes that proposal seriously. it seems like a bunch of smooth brained outsider trolls.
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GFY37d ago
WOW COULD YOU BE MORE WRONG. @jb55 HAD SOME GREAT OPINIONS, HERE ARE THE BULLET POINTS: - YOURE A RETARD - CRY HARDER - ...
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jgbtc37d ago
😂 for someone with zero merit, he sure talks about meritocracy a lot. He thinks he's hot shit because he can code and made an app but he can be safely replaced with claude and no one would notice.
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jb5537d ago
more expanded thoughts on this: 📝 50806697…
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JackTheMimic36d ago
Tell me what implementation is trending toward half of the network?
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Cruz36d ago
None of them are trying to enforce a soft fork. Bip 110 has automatic activation at 55% signalling or after 6 months. What do you think happens in the days after when there is percentage point support.
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JackTheMimic36d ago
You mean like since a month ago? It's at 6.83% of nodes right now. Or do you mean miner signaling? Because if you think miners are the important factor here, I would have you revisit 2016. Yes, they literally all are enforcing a soft fork. Every implementation enforces the rules that are set. You just don't see BIP 141 as "enforcing a soft fork" because you agree with segwit.
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jb5536d ago
yes you want contributors to bitcoin to be elite as they can be
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Ragamuffin36d ago
They most be governed / guided by/ constrained by higher philosophy and principles. And even governed by the accountability to the citizenry / plebs. Just like elite soldiers - some can be good or bad actors. Some can do good through restraint. Some do a lot of damage through exercising their skills. The most elite soldiers aren’t gods, they shouldn’t just take and use power to wield on the weaker citizens - because they can - should they? Even if they agree amongst themselves… That’s how failed civilizations work.
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JackTheMimic36d ago
Okay, then make the fee market fair. Remove the witness discount. And remove OP_RETURN standardness. Still a consensus change. Either way, BIP 110 isn't retarded, it's just the only option left after people don't listen to reason.
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JackTheMimic36d ago
"Like feds" what by not deprecating datacarrier? Giving you MORE control over your node policy settings? You do realize Knots and Core are like 99% the same right? You can even set a knots node up exactly like a core node. Just not the other way around. I think you fell victim to the rhetoric. Segwit and the witness discount are not the same thing.
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JackTheMimic36d ago
Lol, correct. Do you know how block weight works?
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JackTheMimic36d ago
No, segwit and the witness discount are 2 separate mechanisms. If you set datacarrier to zero you break core. If you set datacarriersize to zero you probably don't understand the field's utility. I don't care what other nodes are doing, that's kind of the point of running your own node. Knots is software, not a person with opinions. I don't care what people say, just what the code I run says.
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Tauri34d ago
Enjoy mutelandia. 📝 7fb40df5…
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Marcus Satbard33d ago
I'm just offering to swap sats and checking who can be trusted and who sold out to become a shitfork promoter. Indeed gambling here is helping to push a contentious change onto bitcoin by platforming that propaganda. Moreover, not at your own expense but at the cost of all bitcoin users.
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the axiom18d ago
sorry I'm out of the loop has anyone addressed core arguments that bip110 doesn't really prevent spam and instead moves it to worse places?
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mleku17d ago
personally, i think bitcoin is now on a downward trajectory. it was compromised by segwit, then taproot, and soon, bitvm and covenants. it will be effectively ethereum by under 3 halving cycles. we need a new thing. bitcoin will be one of the spores, and nostr another. obsoleting money, which you may read incorrectly as socialism, will be possible with what inherits its former title as there is no second best. protocol politics is the root of the problem. the cure, is decentralised, emergent intelligence that assists people find optimal trades that resolve the barter problem without introducing a new lever.
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the axiom18d ago
also have knots people considered reducing the block size to prevent spam instead?
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GFY37d ago
🤣🤣🤣
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jb5537d ago
you're right it does sound like a bot, its getting harded to tell these days. low IQ people are indistinguishable from the latest LLM models.
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hodlonaut37d ago
You went straight to appeal to technical authority?
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jb5537d ago
yeah we call it a meritocracy, its how bitcoin works
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jb5537d ago
unless you want bitcoin run by retards, then you are a retard
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GFY37d ago
"ARE YOU A DOCTOR" VIBES 🤣 HOW MANY BOOSTERS JB
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jb5537d ago
keep crying, can't wait for ya'll to fork off onto bitcoin retard edition
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GFY37d ago
I'M LAUGHING YOU BUFFOON
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Unhosted Marcellus37d ago
Off the top of my head: LukeDashjr, Jason Hughes, Chris Guida, SuperTestnet, Hunter Beast. Probably missing a handful. Wanker.
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Jameson Lopp34d ago
Spread the word: you're all welcome to take advantage of this offer! 📝 cca1817d…
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PDJ37d ago
@0b77a4d6…cb11fdb7 👆
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Unhosted Marcellus37d ago
As I said on X, BIP-110 is as much a signal that Bitcoin is money as a slap in the face of the careless developer class. Of course they're gathered 'round and decided that bitcoiners slapping them in the face is retarded.
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FREEDOM36d ago
Bitcoin doesn’t need consensus by decree. It needs people willing to defend first principles when it’s inconvenient.
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atyh37d ago
there are enough things which exceed 85% retard. lets at least keep one thing below 20% retard.
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hodlonaut37d ago
Wow… you actually think you’re parting a priesthood that stupid plebs shall not question? Wild
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hodlonaut37d ago
*part of
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jb5537d ago
plebs who actually care about bitcoin should join contribute code and build their own merit so that they are taken seriously. the core team is not going to take random plebs seriously about engineering decisions
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BITKARROT37d ago
People who aren’t from an engineering background and only vibe code are now super arrogant about their opinions. They need to Stop. Just cuz you vibe coded some apps does not mean you automagically grok eng.
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Unhosted Marcellus34d ago
I have better uses for my sats than engaging with friendly bets with scammy shitcoiner VCs. For instance renting hashrate for my DATUM gateway.
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Jameson Lopp34d ago
Oh to be clear, this isn't a friendly bet. It's an unfriendly wager, which is why the trustless tech is paramount. If you truly detest me as a "scammy shitcoiner VC" then I'd expect you to jump at the opportunity to relieve me of my bitcoin. Surely you can put it to better use than I would, right?
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jb5537d ago
its like having a random dude join delta force and expect that the other team members should take him seriously. like it's fucking dumb and i'm tired of this line of argument from the "you must listen to the plebs" crowd.
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Toxic Bitcoiner37d ago
Gloria LOL
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jgbtc37d ago
The flaw in you statement is that this isn't exclusively, or even mainly, an engineering decsion. But this has been pointed out to you many times already jb, and since you're a conceited duche bag I don't expect you to ever agree, and don't care if you do. I will just say anyone who runs your software, or software written by someone with your mentality, is a complete idiot.
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jb5537d ago
cry harder
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Unhosted Marcellus34d ago
In general I don't believe idiots and scammers need any special help getting relieved of their coins sooner or later.
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