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goatmeal15d ago
if the only way to fix lightning is by making it completely centralized via spark, it needs to be thrown in the incinerator. 8 years down the drain for this clown show
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Daedalus15d ago
It's been inevitable since its inception, hindsight makes this clear. Lightning was never able to be a scaling solution or privacy solution, it's main claim to fame has always been micropayments and quicker settlement. Small blockers thought it was more so they believed keeping the L1 slow, expensive and transparent could be overcome with lightning. Oh how wrong they were.
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goatmeal15d ago
I am trying to overthrow an accessory derangement. the idea is that the ONLY aspect of decentralization that matters AT ALL is how easy it is to run a L1 full node, and that making it as easy as physically possible has no negative effects elsewhere. this derangement is propping up the lightning idea and permitting it to drag dangerous amounts of centralization into the ecosystem. it is wrong and it need to be stopped.
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OT15d ago
How am I able to zap you? Do as you say and turn it off
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Daedalus15d ago
Yeah it's insanity. Storage is the cheapest component and node diversity isn't nearly as impactful as mining economics for instance for centralization. This is ignoring cultural or economic centralization. These same folks who preach small blocks also praise ETFs and treasuries.
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goatmeal15d ago
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OT15d ago
Send the sats back if you hate lightning
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OT15d ago
See how amazing that was. Instant!
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goatmeal15d ago
it's a centralized toy. do you think this is some kind of gotcha? you are sending me free IOUs to help me understand how the toy works. do you think I talk about stuff without trying it and reading the documentation?
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OT15d ago
You have the option of running your own LN node and opening channels to anyone you like. That doesn't sound like centralized to me.
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goatmeal15d ago
that doesn't scale
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