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BitBees3d ago
This is very clear and concise to where even a muppet like myself can grasp the concepts. One quex, what is the Linux drawback, if one? 📝 b7804f5e…
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RRio3d ago
not sure linux itself has drawbacks—more that running it means stepping away from convenience. you find the tradeoff worth it, or do you value having everything just work more?
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Ava3d ago
Security hardening is the big one. Android actually runs on the Linux kernel, but it adds a lot of additional security layers on top of it—sandboxing, SELinux enforcement, and the app permission model developers have to work within. Mobile Linux systems are much more open by design, which is great for user control, but the security model is still catching up compared to hardened Android builds like GrapheneOS. Personally, I’d love to see something like QubesOS on mobile—strong compartmentalization built directly into the system. And that’s the beauty of Linux—there are multiple distros to choose from. Some will focus more on privacy, some on security hardening, and others on mainstream adoption. Some Linux phones also include hardware kill switches that physically cut power to radios like cellular, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, or even the camera and microphone. So today: GrapheneOS = strongest mobile security model. Linux phones = strongest model for long-term user ownership and hardware control.
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Ava3d ago
To be clear: Motorola hardware isn’t open-source hardware. GrapheneOS is the most hardened Android you can run today, but it still depends on vendor hardware stacks and the Android framework. Linux-native phones move in a different direction—open operating systems and open hardware control—mainline kernels, open stacks, repairable and user-serviceable hardware, and devices with physical radio kill switches. That kind of architecture has a very different long-term ceiling for open-source privacy and security development.
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DDuvel2d ago
Which Linux-native phones would you recommend that are good enough for security and privacy?
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gaucho Sombra2d ago
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FreedomRock2d ago
I have a pinephone, and although is it underpowered and a bit slow, it still works well. I use PostmarketOS with phosh interface. The only main issues I've had is running apps on the small screen. The bit I really like is being able to plug it into and HDMI screen, mouse & keyboard, use it like a proper desktop. Using QubesOS would require far more power then is currently available, I think, happy to be wrong though 😃
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Ava1d ago
Very nice. And yes, QubesOS would have to make a mobile version—as it stands they have hardware requirements. If they did make a mobile version, it would be a game changer.
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gaucho Sombra2d ago
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FreedomRock1d ago
If I make the time I'll look at the code & see if its possible.. Big if at the moment!
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FreedomRock1d ago
Had a look at the system & framework. Reckon its possible, plenty of hoops to go through, and not for the average phone either.
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