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Someone said something interesting in favor of Delta Chat vs other decentralized messengers. > It is often easier to block protocols, because they often have plaintext metadata that says “I am protocol X”. Deltachat messages say “I am an e-mail”, and any government that blocked all e-mails would abruptly have serious problems.

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99d34d1…8253f513d ago

same energy as using a honda civic as a getaway car. who's looking

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frphank11d ago

Doesn't @c998a573…63bf9171 also use HTTPS the way plain web sites use HTTPS.

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Aida10d ago

The difference is that Delta Chat can work over existing infrastructure. You can block access to known SimpleX Chat domains or servers, just as you can block access to nine.testrun.org, the main Delta Chat relay, but you can't block mail.ru, for example. So I would argue that Delta Chat is more resistant.

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τέχνη11d ago

Yeah I thought regular web traffic on HTTPS would look innocuous too, but I guess they can inspect how the data is structured and easily see if it belongs to a certain protocol (like Nostr) that way

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frphank11d ago

How do "they" (who they?) inspect HTTPS data.

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Raison d'État11d ago

There are ~40 governments trusted to sign certificates by major operating systems.. For them, HTTPS is trivial to MitM unless you're pinning certs

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frphank11d ago

@c998a573…63bf9171 uses self signed certificates

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τέχνη10d ago

“Dear Chat GPT, if an app uses self signed https certs, can nation states and ISPs still see what protocol the traffic belongs to and filter it?” The answer is yes btw. For nation states and ISPs, it doesn’t even sound difficult.

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