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Bitcoin Mechanic22d ago
Prompting Grok to save me time reading/rebutting Lopp's hit piece against BIP-110. Pretty decent summary.
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BitcoinIsFuture22d ago
I read it and its exactly what I expect from Jameson Lopp given his behavior, communication and investments in the past years. A manipulative shitcoiner. 📝 ec60e41f…
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ChrisN22d ago
IMO the argument is centering around semantics when it should be argued from metaphysics and consistency. Lopp’s metaphysics and his advocacy don’t line up, he sells Bitcoin as hard, ossified physics, then argues like a technocrat. Mechanic is at least coherent inside his living‑polity frame, he just hasn’t shown why that metaphysics is actually true of Bitcoin rather than simply assumed.
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Bitcoin Mechanic22d ago
What metaphysical things are missing from the discussion?
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Bitcoin Mechanic22d ago
He mentioned growth of the chain separately to the discussion around BIP-110. The BIP doesn't decrease block size to 300KB which was what that section of the podcast was about.
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Bob Social, 21d ago
I don't want him to change bitcoin🫥. What is the probability that he can attack bitcoin successfully😶, and make the change he wants to implement?
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Bob Social, 21d ago
😐Owww😐 @Bitcoin Mechanic you want BIP-110😬😬😬😬😬 I'm also against BIP-110 ❗️❕️❗️
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blockdyor21d ago
He seems genuinely interested in everything Knots/BIP110 related. It's always an experience to read @Jameson Lopp. Thanks to all his teachings I'm now running Bitcoin Knots with BIP-110. Thank you!
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Jameson Lopp21d ago
Great! I don't care what you run, but I am interested in economic signals. Would you care to put your money where your mouth is? 📝 cca1817d…
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Jameson Lopp21d ago
Still don't have the balls to put your bitcoin where your mouth is? 📝 cca1817d…
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Telluride20d ago
I remember when I liked you Lopp.
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Tauri20d ago
Is this a picture of your 6th grandfather Lopp?
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Kush21d ago
Bruv… that’s propa geek speak
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I Am Muslim ✋🏼20d ago
🔴 God has said in the Quran: 🔵 { And fear the Day when you will be brought back to Allah. Then every soul will be rewarded in full for what it has earned, and none will be wronged. ( 2:281 )} https://quranenc.com/en/browse/english_rwwad/1
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ChrisN21d ago
What’s missing is a clear, argued metaphysical claim about what kind of thing Bitcoin is at the base layer, a living polity or an ossifying time‑and‑state substrate, rather than just analogies and semantics built on top of that assumption.
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ChrisN21d ago
I think the “Bitcoin is mycelium / living thing” framing is a great analogy for how Bitcoin manifests in culture, memes, social networks, economic behavior. Where I’m hung up is when that analogy gets pulled one layer down and applied to the base layer itself. I haven’t yet seen a coherent argument for why the consensus rules should be treated as a “living polity”, rather than as an ossifying model of time and state that living systems grow on top of. When I look at Bitcoin, I see a fixed time and space substrate (global consensus on ordering and validity) and then money, data, and culture colonizing that substrate. Calling the whole stack “living” without separating substrate from emergent life feels like a category error mistaking the life of the ecosystem for the life of the protocol physics. By way of analogy, it’s like saying the soil and the mycelium are the same thing; they aren’t, and trying to change the chemical structure of the soil after it’s colonized can kill the network you’re trying to protect. From that frame, you fight invasives at the network layer, policy, law, client behavior, culture, not at the consensus layer. I could be wrong here, and if there’s a good piece that really makes the case for Bitcoin as living polity at the base layer level, I’d genuinely like to read it.
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Bitcoin Mechanic20d ago
Me too!
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Tauri20d ago
I think that was in 2021. 🤔
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