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FTB40d ago
I'm now completely convinced that this entire drawdown - which may have been started by API problems on Binance, but if it hadn't have been that it would have been something else - is all about liquidating bitcoin backed loans. It's a terrible incentive sitting out there in the market. A HUGE pot of bitcoin that is suddenly up for grabs at LOWER prices. And this world is full of rich people who want our coins. If you needed liquidity above $100k you had two options, sell or take a loan out. Of course there were lots of companies eager to sell you the dream of getting liquidity without selling your bitcoin, unfortunately that's all that is, a dream. We've been sold a lie that bitcoin is the best possible collateral because it's liquid 24/7! Well sure that makes it amazing...FOR THE LENDER! For the borrower it just puts a target on your back. You thought you were a hardcore hodler, but you just posted your coins for sale at $58k! And guess what? There are buyers who want that deal! We're going to go down until every reasonably accessible bitcoin being held as collateral is freed up and sold to someone that ain't one of us! If you avoided taking out a loan, congrats! If somehow you have some dry powder now, amazing, you deserve these cheap sats. If you're looking at liquidation even anywhere in the 50's, I'd consider cutting your losses and closing your loan with collateral. If you can get your margin call price into the 40's I would hope you would be safe, but who knows. There are no rules in a truly free market.
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Matt 🛸40d ago
For the curious 📝 8e344a64…
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Matt 🛸40d ago
Fortunately I considered the risk going in. But I think most people are better off avoiding the fire. It took way too much mental energy to stay on the board and it's far too easy to stretch until you're rekt.
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McCoy40d ago
just work harder to avoid for selling. Then you don't need a loan and you don't have to sell.
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Brisket39d ago
Yeah - I picked up a loan last August & I agree with what you're saying. It's a small loan but there is no price that bitcoin cannot go to. Price is set on the margins. The thing that catches most offside is that as the price drops, extra collateral provides increasingly less value to prop up the loan. A small loan can quickly risk your whole stack through your exponentially diminishing collateral. Sometimes it's best to cut your losses early. Run through your calculations & scenarios - know the lowest price that you can defend your loan to (mine is about $6K).
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McCoy39d ago
hoarding it from my future self. Without permission.
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McCoy39d ago
hoarding it FOR my future self. Without permission.
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Brisket39d ago
Nope. It's still riding.
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Jake Woodhouse39d ago
Solid point And could well be the case Fascinating isn’t it I almost have @d7f3a2d8…ad17f32b in my head saying “if you don’t want to sell your Bitcoin, then take a loan from Ledn” advert Amongst many others Of course responsibility is always on the investor themself, it’s not a podcasts fault You took the risk But the key here is that perhaps leverage IS the problem It makes the market inherently unstable, as these volatility spikes smash through the margins and LTV in place Fascinating times
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Jason Ansley | Fractional COO | Leadership Coach39d ago
So true
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Kontext39d ago
You either stay humble or get humbled. I went through this in 2021/22. It fucking sucks. But for me, personally, it was a valuable reminder of the necessity of PoW. Nothing good ever comes easy. Stay positive out there my friend 🫂
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FTB36d ago
I think it’s probably over after that. Too big of a V in the chart, but we’ll see!
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