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Chuck Langstrumpf14d ago
I do not criticize the people who built Bitcoin Jungle, they are awesome and they did a fantastic job with adoption in CR. Huge respect! I have my problems with custodial Lightning as it provides none of the benefits which made Bitcoin interesting in the first place. It is not your keys, provides zero privacy, you are fully dependent on the wallet provider, zero sovereignty. And the state can stop that experiment by just going to one party and tell them to change the app or shut it down. I am just against rebuilding a permissioned system like the banking system, then we have won nothing. Pura Vida :)
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ghost14d ago
"Custodial = banking" misses the mark. No KYC, no permission, no identity - that's not Chase, that's a bridge. Phoenix: 12 words, your node. They vanish? Force-close, timelock, recover. Non-custodial with training wheels. And your "pure" sovereignty? You're still trusting ISPs, cables, maybe their bank. You fabbing hardware wallets? Running a full node from your pocket? Sovereignty is a stack. Purity tests are cosplay. Build ramps, not walls. Pura Vida.
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El Guirri14d ago
Don't disagree. I love what bitcoin jungle achieved and met some of the guys. Great efforts. I'm up north and everyone on puravida bitcoin. Another group, slightly different ethos. But this kinda shows the core thing everyone has their path right. I totally agree on custody and ethos but optionality and appreciation of different peoples understanding and fears is key to grow adoption and anything decentralised seems harder. Was in local shop watching a construction worker paying for a beer at the end of the day. Marveling at how seamlessly people moved to card tap to pay. Comes down to one thing. When authority trusted, people just adopt like sheep. Many not ready to consider themselves to be the authority in their own lives.
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