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jb55311d ago
After seeing all the anti-core hate and propaganda on here, its made me think I should be working on bitcoin core more again.
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jb55311d ago
Switched it to my node
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jb55311d ago
there has been an insane amount of hate directed toward "core devs", aka me and a handful of people. please don't lecture me about being shallow and counterproductive. all the core devs I know are extremely thoughtful when they consider changes, in terms of how it may effect decentralization and incentives. seeing most of nostr attacking some of the best devs in this space that are working tireless to defend bitcoin against centralizing effects has been pretty disgusting.
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jb55311d ago
doing it 📝 da98c00c…
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JackTheMimic311d ago
The core dev ire has nothing to do with the changes, it has everything to do with their response to descent. To speak to people with valid criticism with derision is what make people call Core devs "shills" or "dumb" or whatever. You can see how someone pointing out a conflict of interest is a valid criticism, right? To be clear some of it is mindless inflooencer "Fuck Core" drivel. But that's commonplace in social media. @8685ebef…58f8faf8 going on about the customer/service provider dynamic differing from open source project is a red herring. The analogy would be people Open-sourcing a physical vault design. Then the major supplier introducing a vulnerability and saying "you don't pay us so you don't get a say in what vulnerabilities we introduce." While yeah, you can't be forved, speech is speech and the point is if you have a logical rebuttal people will side with you. But, what does a mass exodus tell you? That your counterpoints are not compelling. Either way, if you bring more freedom to Core, I say join them and make core greater!
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puzzles 311d ago
This.
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jb55311d ago
full stack bitcoin dev. core, lightning, nostr :P
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jb55311d ago
current airport project. doing eet. 📝 da98c00c…
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It's Moro!311d ago
but if you do that, all the larps will yell at you to not do that!
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NotBiebs and 69 others311d ago
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jb55311d ago
I am a bitcoin core developer, what you're saying about me is not true.
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jb55311d ago
This just turns “bitcoin core devs” into a vague boogeyman that you can lob insults at to radicalize people and endanger our lives. Bitcoin core devs are pretty diverse and have different opinions on things.
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jb55311d ago
there was a panel at bitcoin++ mempool that explained the entire situation. just repeating this to make the situation look worse then it is is bullshit. their explanation is completely reasonable. just go watch it and think for yourself instead of repeating bullshit narratives.
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jb55311d ago
looks like they leveraged filters to remove spam. don't you support that idea?
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jb55311d ago
they locked the thread because the technical discussion became impossible. its a flaw with github. I think they should eventually switch to WoT filtering with a git nostr client so they can continue to do proper review even when its being brigaded
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saunter311d ago
Yes, we need you
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ShiShi21m311d ago
This is unacceptable to me. 📝 7819e6e3…
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jb55311d ago
how do you stop paid contributions? contributions are judged based on the contents of the PR. just because its paid work doesn't mean it will be accepted.
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jb55311d ago
I would love for you to get an unless amount of messages from people who say that are going to kill you and we’ll see how long your remain polite and non defensive
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JackTheMimic311d ago
I have, I take contrarian positions all of the time and people can be.... Let's say, passionate. I commiserate, I truly do. Threats have never materialized in real life just like when people say things they would never dare say to your face. Regardless, the moral person acts irrespective to threats. Also, I truly hope you wouldn't wish something you find so distressing on someone else. Perhaps just a turn of phrase to highlight the need for empathy, which I have for the core devs. I would just like the same courtesy for a dissenting opinion.
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nicnym #BIP-110311d ago
Just like woke commie politicians wow
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mleku311d ago
i'll believe he can do something actually good for it when he finally releases damus android, oh yeah, that's not ever going to happen now after teasing it for a year if you ask me, people who like "cool" things (as defined by the mainstream media) like apple and rust are red flags that they have a shallow character and are toxic inside
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protozoan numbness311d ago
Github is not the place for that. Nostr is.
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jb55311d ago
if you want the full picture there's no better way!
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jb55311d ago
well knots is core, so two birds with one stone.
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It's Moro!311d ago
don't say that so loud...too soon bro
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jb55311d ago
someone opens a PR and therefore we are all evil? this shit makes no sense.
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atyh311d ago
this is a weird thread 😳 hey @jb55. hope you enjoyed Austin. 🙂
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ShiShi21m311d ago
I'm not sure you got the point being pushed. 📝 15a6ed27… 📝 bb010bbb…
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jb55311d ago
these are all straw man arguments
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JackTheMimic311d ago
But why can't we put arbitrary data on Github? Would there be some kind of spam problem if we did that?
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ShiShi21m311d ago
Argument: "if you want an opinion you need to fund core devs directly" Counter: "a lot of us donate to core devs, & we are the lifeblood of the protocol maybe our feedback is valuable" "If our voices are not heard maybe we'll be forced to redirect our efforts" There's nothing wrong with my perspective. There's nothing wrong with adversarial conversations.
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jb55311d ago
is there a point being made here? You are just describing market activity. by all means go pay knots contributors if you think it will create a more censorship resistant bitcoin. How are you so sure you are smarter than a large number of core devs who think adversarially every day, to ensure incentives are aligned so that filters don’t inadvertently create more and more slipstreams, completely breaking bitcoins censorship resistance properties? They are thinking at a different level than simply 80iq monkey jpg memes which don’t make any sense. But by all means if you would be rather manipulated by memes instead of technical arguments, then continue to harrass devs, spam memes, and support unhinged developers instead of supporting reasonable discourse on mailing lists, where this stuff is supposed to be resolved. Maybe have some self reflection and realize this discourse is overall hurting bitcoin more than it is helping.
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ShiShi21m311d ago
Your attitude is just as childish as the other side of this argument. My PoV on this has nothing to do with the specifics of this exact change to Bitcoin...and everything to do with the attitudes of the core devs. We are allowed to question you, you should have better responses that don't include crying about adversaries ripping you on the internet.
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jb55311d ago
you keep lumping core devs together like they all have the same attitude. core devs are not a homogeneous group of people. It’s just so stupid. “We are allowed to question you”. You can do that all you want, but no devs have to listen to you. Why would any dev listen to a bunch of people driven by social media campaigns and have zero experience within the project. Your words are meaningless until you start actually contributing and have proven that you have thought long and hard about the actual issues.
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ESE311d ago
We don't need words; We need Knots!
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ShiShi21m311d ago
You got me bro, *some of the core devs including you* ...the rest continues to show a lack of self awareness so I'll leave it at that but.... man you guys gotta stop crying & pretending you're some altruistic bunch.
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