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TallBrian190d ago
I don’t have the skills to do a proper analysis on Core v. Knots. The arguments on both side are compelling but the Knots side feels more genuine and Core comes off as a bit elitist. Doesn’t mean Core is wrong (necessarily), could just mean Knots is fighting a better forward guard. Is anyone keeping a score card of devs and thought leaders positions on this? Some people I really respect in the space and look to for guidance are @83e818df…5ccd964b @50d94fc2…df281d63 @c9b19ffc…1e108965 @4379e76b…065061ad @c4eabae1…61cbc4e0 @ODELL @472f440f…5669301e @e88a691e…27850411
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ti delo190d ago
I agree with your take on this matter and I’m leaning towards the knots camp. However, I’ve seen some arguments voicing the opinion that knots could potentially lead towards some form of centralization. Looking to get a better take on that one.
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Comte de Sats Germain190d ago
We might be screwed. The devs are all more interested in squabbling than discussing. Both sides. What I'd like is a scorecard of previous disputes and who stood where and the outcome. Proof of work. And I'd like them to talk to each other respectfully and publicly, for the purpose of educating plebs.
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ODELL189d ago
i do not feel comfortable telling people to run knots until it has better review and release processes in place if you do not want to relay larger op return transactions then run core v29 (the most recent version of core) and do not update to v30 when it is released alternatively you can run v30 with a modified config file i think luke, mechanic, and most core contributors mean well and care about bitcoin long term i want to see more well reviewed bitcoin implementations exist, more choices for node operators is strictly better, this is one of the reasons i have donated my time to build out opensats i think this ‘debate’ has mostly devolved into social attacks and is mostly unproductive i do not think it matters much for the global bitcoin network which client you run, in this specific situation i have said much on this topic in the past, use the search feature if you are curious
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roscoclyde189d ago
I’ve been curious your opinion on the matter. Thank you. 🤝
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furio189d ago
Run what you want, but run away from people telling you you’re dumb for running a specific client.
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Weatherall189d ago
yeah. and if you are smart and not really a fan of anal, you'll run #knots
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Eede3d9…795382189d ago
Lol, remember Bitcoin Classic, Bitcoin Unlimited and Bitcoin Cash. They ultimately lead to the fork in 2017. Back in the day the "Core" argument was that alternatives are dangerous. We've came a long way since then.
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Eric FJ 🪬⚡️189d ago
This is lucid
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DagzTagz 189d ago
Indeed!
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bitcoinpoorguy 比特幣傢伙189d ago
Fair enough 🫡
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scrolls of ancient wisdom189d ago
This is opinion is natural to slightly biased to core. The reason why people are running knots even without the best review is because we feel offended and betrayed.
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Joseph Hurtado - Founder Granata Consulting189d ago
Who reviews core? Knots is a minor fork of Core.
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Trazyn189d ago
> Knots is a minor fork of Core. How do you know, have you reviewed it ?
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R189d ago
Most of the competent bitcoin software engineers review Core in a formal rough consensus review process (look it up). How do you know knots is a minor fork and isn’t introducing a security flaw? Is that based on your ability to review code? If other bitcoin software engineers thought took the time to review knots and decided it had a flaw, how would they stop Luke from publishing an update he wants published?
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dagwood189d ago
Cooler heads prevail. Best "NOT TWITTER" explanation I have seen.
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Winston189d ago
Well said. The voice of reason.
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marksn189d ago
a 💯 . right now it’s a distraction imho
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Skanderbeg189d ago
Or just update to v30 and change the datacarrier limit. Keeps OP_RETURN limits as is.
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Skanderbeg189d ago
If that's something you are concerned about, which is another conversation.
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BitcoinSandy189d ago
Wen taproot ? Or am i late ? That’s about where I am 😂
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pedro189d ago
you're talking about long term, but do you think core 30 may cause a short/mid term problem though? we have a precedent with what happened on bsv, when they raised op return to 100kb and i don't understand yet why this huge risk is being taken so lightly. "just don't update your node" won't be helpful, when other people do update and stuff ends up on a block
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spyhunter188d ago
I have this exact thought bouncing around in my brain, as such the just don't update line makes no sense to me. not to be a doomer but i don't see how this change doesn't destroy the p2p layer of bitcoin.
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Force2B189d ago
Good call
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Branca187d ago
All it takes is one miner not using OP_RETURN filters for all nodes, including yours, to store illicit material. This is the only argument they should refute or substantiate much better. At this point, and given what's happening, I think influential people are definitely compromised.
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Joseph Hurtado - Founder Granata Consulting188d ago
Both are open source. Any developer can review Knots. BTW yes I could review Knots code. I am a developer too.
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R188d ago
The original point from Odell was about the review release PROCESS. Do you participate in the review release process for knots or are you just another “I could review it if I wanted to”. If you do, great, please explain the process to us and how you would prevent Luke from publishing something he thinks is good but the other knots developers thinks is a security risk.
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