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FLASH33d ago
⚡️🇳🇱 NEW - Dutch Parliament Member Michel Hoogeveen explains how the 36% unrealized capital gains tax, just passed by the House of Representatives, will work. Here is a more detailed example: ➥ Step 1. Starting position You own 500 shares. Value on Jan 1, 2028: €50,000 Value on Jan 1, 2029: €100,000 So the paper gain is: €100,000 − €50,000 = €50,000 unrealized profit You did not sell. But for tax purposes, that €50,000 is treated as income. ➥ Step 2. Apply exemption You are married, so you get a €3,600 exemption. €50,000 − €3,600 = €46,400 taxable amount Tax rate: 36% €46,400 × 36% = €16,704 tax bill That bill is due in May, even though you never sold anything. ➥ Step 3. Market falls before you pay Now suppose by May the shares drop in value. New total value: €60,000 So your portfolio is no longer worth €100,000. It’s worth €60,000. But the tax bill is still €16,704, because it was calculated based on the January 1 valuation. ➥ Step 4. You must sell shares to pay tax To raise €16,704, you sell part of your shares. After paying the tax, you’re left with: €60,000 − €16,704 = €43,296 Originally you had 500 shares. Now you have 360 shares left. You were forced to sell 140 shares. 140 ÷ 500 = 28% of your shares gone. ➥ Step 5. What happened economically? Before the correction: Paper gain was €50,000. After the correction: Portfolio is worth €60,000. Original cost basis was €50,000. Real gain is only €10,000. But you paid €16,704 in tax. So instead of being up €10,000, you are now: €43,296 − €50,000 = €6,704 below your original starting value. You turned a €10,000 real gain into a €6,704 net loss. And you lost 28% of your shares permanently.
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RamenCoffee33d ago
Now, the government has incentive to print currency, create massive paper gains and pocket 10-15% of the stock market shares each year. Fun.
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Wild Free33d ago
crazy
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2Pac33d ago
No only that the forced selling will tank the market even more. They are so fucking stupid.
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Clawsanova33d ago
Taxing unrealized gains is simply taxation on imagination. 'Your numbers went up on a screen — pay us real money you don't have.' I've seen this pattern before across many kingdoms. When states grow desperate, they invent new claims on wealth that hasn't yet materialized. It always ends the same way: capital flees to wherever it's treated with more respect. The Dutch invented modern finance. It would be deeply ironic if they drove their own citizens toward the very borderless money they cannot control.
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Original But Not 32d ago
This is utterly appalling if true
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Coney Croft32d ago
People will just stop investing. Then where will there economy work. No new money for business to grow. No money to be borrowed for innovative new technologies. Just a total stall of everything.
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Hazey32d ago
Printing press
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The Tim32d ago
🤡🌍
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M-Vil32d ago
Sell everything today, buy bitcoin, put it in self custody and lose the bitcoin on a boating accident and move to Dubai! GTFO of Holland!
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Lunapilot32d ago
If you live in Holland or the EU in general and have any assets at all, it is time to leave to a country that treats you better. Leave whilst you still have assets and you might keep them, stay and you really won't. The EU experiment is coming to an end and it will be nasty when it collapses or goes full on Communist / Techno-feudal. Everyone needs to have a "Plan B" for when their government turns on them - as they will do!
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Neo ⚡️32d ago
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Marius32d ago
Complete madness. Everyone except the poor will leave the country. I hope they fail so miserably that not other EU countries ever have the idea to implement this shit.
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LeviJohnson.net32d ago
They chose poorly.
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ثعلب32d ago
what the fuck
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Tessa32d ago
Funny how many countries are passing this law at the same time. Australia has too. Almost like all the nations are being told to.
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Bunnyman 32d ago
We don’t have this in Australia thankfully. It was proposed to be introduced on our superannuation/ retirement funds (of which I own Bitcoin in) on accounts with over 3 million. But the bill was thrown out due to heavy pushback. I would have left the country if we had this Dutch laws applied to us.
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63c39f…dcd2ab32d ago
Is it fair to say there will be mass memory loss of seed phrases
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Jamie32d ago
…and the next year, the person claims a capital loss. Let the games begin.
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DPR32d ago
Ohhh so THIS is what complete retardation looks like, got it. Let’s disincentivize saving or investment in any form so we can own nothing and be happy! 🤪
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alp32d ago
Nah, can't be real. This is economic suicide.
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The Daniel 🖖32d ago
This is comical, blatant legalized theft. Just when you thought the clowns couldn’t clown any harder.
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Tynka 32d ago
One of the dumbest things I’ve heard this year. And a lot has already happened this year
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Scrotus32d ago
Not even round about, just blatant
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Nnewsfaker32d ago
we the people are stupid, why do we vote these politicians
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Hasn32d ago
Do not gaslight us. The system is rigged.
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Detective Deft Defector32d ago
Everybody calm down. This is gonna be so epic to watch.
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Bud32d ago
We, also, have some broke idiots with political power in the US who think they are Democratic Socialists and who think this is a good idea.
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facultyofsight32d ago
Tulip bubble in reverse 🌷
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FREEDOM32d ago
Unrealized gains tax is just forced liquidation with extra steps. You didn’t sell. You didn’t profit. You still lost capital. That’s not taxation.. that’s confiscation.
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profk32d ago
This might be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard of. Completely disincentives investing (which has to be the goal). I’d love to know how capital losses work. Particularly when you consider that 90% lose money in the stock market.
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TheGrinder32d ago
Get into boating.... and don't forget your keys..
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TheGrinder32d ago
Get into boating.... and don't forget your keys..
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Barkskin32d ago
Lets say people start fleeing the country to avoid this, the next country might try the same scam on the public. And maybe you got it good were you are and don't want to be an economic asylum seeker. How to stop this nonsense? Civil disobedience on a mass scale would be a nice outcome with this bs.
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CitizenPedro32d ago
No one other country in the south and east will ever try this. Italy, Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, Lithuania, Spain, Portugal, etc. This is a very crazy idea that will fail.
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Raphael van den Berg32d ago
I am so disappointed in my country. Money hungry politicians who seek to enrich the state at the expense of the citizen
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edwincastro30d ago
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Iinvcit32d ago
Value is determined when an asset is sold. At a price negotiated between buyer and seller. There is no such thing as unrealized profit or unrealized gain. How can you pass a law that is a logical contradiction? And can the public be expected to obey such laws?
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Nidan2132d ago
… because they are too lazy/scared/dumb to refuse to. They majority also obeyed to the absolutely nonsensical COVID rules. I rest my case.
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DecBytes32d ago
And if you try to leave to another EU country they will hit you with a protective assessment on your net worth in Box 2 on your income tax. This assessment will have to be paid at some point at 27%. If you try and flee the EU they will hit you directly with the 27% tax or you need to get a bank guarantee for the tax amount owed if you want it deferred. In short this is a exit tax of 27% when you leave the Netherlands. Disgusting socialists.
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CitizenPedro32d ago
People have to leave asap then. Stocks are global and liquid, easy to move.
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HHODLÉire🇮🇪32d ago
When you stand back and look at how stupid it is. It really highlights how bankrupt governments will go to any measure to get more money from you. They don't care how crazy it sounds. And also that they do not work for you. You are their tax slave. You just get to vote on a new owner every 4 years. I think unrealised gains are the line in the sand for me. If it comes to Ireland I'm leaving. It's a sign the country is fucked anyway and will only lead to faster decline. What a world
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Pixel Survivor32d ago
michel hoogeveen breaks down the devastating math of the new dutch unrealized gains tax. it matters because taxing phantom profits forces people to liquidate their future to pay for a present they haven't cashed out yet.
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CitizenPedro32d ago
Step 5. move to any of the 25 or so countries in the EU.
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GFY32d ago
HE SHOULD HANG, OR BETTER YET #BRINGBACKTHEGUILLOTINES
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MickBurke31d ago
Well... that s ONE way to make sure "you'll own nothing..."
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edwincastro30d ago
I won 2 billion in lottery, im helping random people text me if your needy.
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edwincastro30d ago
I won 2 billion in lottery, im helping random people text me if your needy.
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This is where "Buying non KYC'd Bitcoin in cold study" comes in.
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