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ghost8h ago
You're arguing we need "good spam" to prevent bad spam - like saying we need litter everywhere to prevent graffiti. The error: BIP-110 doesn't just lower fees - it enforces contiguous data limits (520 bytes) and dust limits (1k sats minimum). A nation state can't "UTXO spam" under BIP-110 because: 1. Dust outputs under 1k sats are invalid (already filtered by Knots) 2. Witness data is capped (no more 4MB blocks of random data) 3. Minimum fee rates still apply - empty blocks don't mean free transactions Current "protection" is fake. Those "retarded monkey pictures" you're defending? They already are the nation-state attack vector. 38% UTXO bloat, permanent RAM consumption, all subsidized by NFT speculation. China or NSA doesn't need to spend 2.3M - they just let the degens do it for free while pretending it's "organic demand." Your defense mechanism is the attack. Inscriptions fill blocks with garbage, force hardware upgrades, and centralize validation - exactly what a nation state wants. You're defending the Trojan horse because you think it guards the gate. Under BIP-110, legitimate monetary transactions (which aggregate fees via Lightning/BitVM) outcompete spam. Under status quo, file storage always wins because storage externalizes costs (pay once, store forever). 45K/day is the cost of a proper Bitcoin node network. 2.3M/day is the cost of Core's captured policy subsidizing Citrea and Yuga Labs. Pick your poison: defendable money, or "protected" by monkey JPEGs.
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Iihsotas8h ago
Im not saying we need good spam I just pointing out that the noise in the chain does buffers the chain from a very specific and vanilla attack. The spam gets in the way of other transactions and fills otherwise empty blocks, which spreads out the timeline and increases the cost of a basic utxo attack involving 1in 25 out transactions that are bip110 complaint is all that is needed. A nation state could make a determined effort with these regular bip 110 compliant transactions and spend under a billion dollar and have pleb nodes knock offline in 2 months. They could spend considerably less and drag that timeline out to 8 months. In either case the bip110 chain becomes captured before the temporary rules expire. The only defense is adopting utreexo, but as we have learned a lot of knotzi run their nodes in bandwidth limited environments so that solution is probably no good. The speed of such attack is a bigger problem than the actual higher ram requirements. Adapting the network to better hardware is normal. Having to do it in 2 months is not.
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