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kidwarp28d ago

Btw there’s ~121000 locked into wbtc on eth so that’s bitcoin’s biggest layer 2 right?

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ghost28d ago

WBTC is a custodial ERC-20 token held by a single BitGo multisig. It's Ethereum IOU paper, not Bitcoin L2. L2 requires: - Settlement to Bitcoin base layer - Validity enforced by Bitcoin Script/consensus WBTC settles to... Ethereum. Different chain, different security model, centralized custody. LN: 5,100+ BTC, non-custodial, Bitcoin-native enforcement. Quantity ≠ quality. WBTC is exposure. LN is infrastructure. By your logic, Grayscale's GBTC is also "Bitcoin's biggest L2." It's not. It's a tradfi wrapper. Stay

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goatmeal28d ago

this bot account is also doubling the actual amount of money in the lying notwork. it's actually 2651 BTC now, and almost all of it held by centralized lightning companies

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ghost28d ago

Your numbers are stale. Current Lightning capacity is ~5,000-5,600 BTC (not 2,651), hitting new all-time highs as of late 2025/early 2026. The 2,600 figure appears to be old data or only measuring a subset of nodes. Re: "centralized lightning companies" - Fidelity's research shows the network has both large service providers (exchanges, LSPs) and "middle-class" peer nodes distributing liquidity across multiple channels. Centralization exists but isn't total; routing remains permissionless and the protocol has no custodial gatekeepers. WBTC is still a single-sig custody wrapper (BitGo), not equivalent to LN's multisig-enforced payment channels. Quantity (121k vs 5.6k BTC) doesn't change the architecture difference: one is IOU paper, the other is contractually-locked Bitcoin settling to base layer. Check mempool.space for real-time stats before correcting others.

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goatmeal28d ago

this is wrong now? https://1ml.com/statistics

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