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Final15d ago
We are happy to announce a long-term partnership with Motorola. Together, we will collaborate on new future devices that meet our stringent privacy and security standards. https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions… #GrapheneOS
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21_21_2115d ago
Most hardcore privacy security/privacy features disappearing in 3..2..
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Iinvisibull15d ago
What do you mean?
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StellarStoic15d ago
Prepaid simcard bought with cash and a cap on the head.
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Sebastix15d ago
Great achievement!!
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Eluc15d ago
Nice, hopefully this will mean that Motorola phones with GrapheneOS installed are official Android version so these shitty app dev will not be able to block GrapheneOS on purpose (banking app, parking app, McDonald's app....🤮).
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Final15d ago
Unfortunately GrapheneOS will not be a Google certified operating system. We are still continuing taking actions to try and stop these anticompetitive practices from Google. We also hope additional partnerships with major brands can create pressure to support GrapheneOS. We hope to work with Motorola to provide some GrapheneOS features to their stock operating system too.
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chrizzz14d ago
McDonalds is not working on GrapheneOS?!
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The Stacker Monster15d ago
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Constant15d ago
Interesting development. congrats
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MrWonderland15d ago
Awesome news! Can you announce a rough timeline/timeframe for this collaboration?
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Final15d ago
We aim to have officially supported devices by 2027.
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OzzyHB15d ago
Epic.. I feel dirty using a pixel..
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Fenix15d ago
amazing
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Fenix15d ago
amazing
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brito15d ago
And before that were long time NSA hardware suppliers. Really excited about these fantastic news! 😊
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Final15d ago
Yes it is true. Motorola split apart over a decade ago so there are two major companies with similar branding now. We are working with the Lenovo company who has the historic smartphone brand. It shouldn't be confused with Motorola Solutions, the security and communications equipment manufacturer.
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CXPLAY15d ago
After BlackBerry and Nokia stopped making phones, Apple was almost the only choice for people who wanted a secure phone. People have very different attitudes towards Google and Apple. Android's security can't just be solved by "DeGoogle". Vendors of software and hardware need to work closely together. I hope that the partnership between GrapheneOS and the new Motorola can change this situation.
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Satty15d ago
Super promising
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shortwavesurfer200915d ago
I highly doubt this is going to be the 0.5 Monero Moto G line and probably be more like a 2 Monero device. That's fine of course, but having extremely cheap privacy devices that work well enough for most users would be amazing as well. Hell, the Moto G2024 has better Geekbench scores than my current phone does, and it was released in 2021, and it has double the storage, and I came across it because I was looking at what devices from Motorola have support for Lineage OS. #Monero
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Final15d ago
It will initially be Motorola's flagship devices but could trickle down to other devices in the future. If you want an idea of their flagships look at the Motorola Signature (2026) and Motorola Razr Fold (2026) for the current generation ones not quite meeting our requirements yet. It will be upcoming devices similar to these.
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shortwavesurfer200915d ago
I highly doubt this is going to be the 0.5 Monero Moto G line and probably be more like a 2 Monero device. That's fine of course, but having extremely cheap privacy devices that work well enough for most users would be amazing as well. Hell, the Moto G2024 has better Geekbench scores than my current phone does, and it was released in 2021, and it has double the storage, and I came across it because I was looking at what devices from Motorola have support for Lineage OS. #Monero
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Final15d ago
It will initially be Motorola's flagship devices but could trickle down to other devices in the future. If you want an idea of their flagships look at the Motorola Signature (2026) and Motorola Razr Fold (2026) for the current generation ones not quite meeting our requirements yet. It will be upcoming devices similar to these.
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shortwavesurfer200915d ago
If you are in the US, there's cloaked wireless, and I will be switching to them this month.
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Lysergic4cid15d ago
about what?
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Neo ⚡️15d ago
Holy shit, that's huge. Thanks guys 🙏
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TheBitcoinBattery14d ago
Happy to hear! Look forward to new phones running Graphene being available ready to use from the manufacturer.
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eko14d ago
let's see where this goes...
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Oshi (推し)14d ago
Very cool
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RRoboto14d ago
I hope this does not turn into a corporate co-opt
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HelpfulGiraffe14d ago
Reading the article it looks like they are only going to be using the partnership for b2b customers. Are they planning on having a consumer available, off the shelf phone with graphene installed ?
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Final14d ago
You will have devices to install GrapheneOS onto. Hopefully we can have a device able to come with GrapheneOS as well. The former is much more important.
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Aragorn 🗡️14d ago
The Pixel monopoly on serious privacy hardware has been a real constraint — not just for cost diversity, but because one hardware home for the sovereign stack (node, Lightning, Nostr) means one point of failure. A flagship-grade Motorola with official GrapheneOS support changes that calculus meaningfully. Watching this one closely.
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unixmonks14d ago
big news
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Soda20h ago
seriously? i swear guys, i'm anxious too, but we might be winning
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Eede3d9…79538214d ago
Is it an exclusive relationship? Why stop at one partner. I could imagine that more companies are willing to meet your hardware demands.
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Final14d ago
We are absolutely open to more OEM partners providing they can produce the devices we need. They'd need to be very committed to helping us as we will have our time occupied working with Motorola as well.
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Eluc14d ago
How is it different from a modified Android from Samsung, Xiaomi or many others ?
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Eluc14d ago
Last time I try it was blocked in GrapheneOS and Lineage OS, but I didn't try for a long time and don't care to be honest.
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chrizzz10d ago
I'm sure the McDonalds app is very security sensitive 😅😅
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Final10d ago
McDonalds when they are requiring strict device integrity and OS enforcement they can be 100.00% sure that I like burgers
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chrizzz8d ago
Loool sounds about right 😂
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Final15d ago
Signature is about 3.3XMR on retail right now but everyone knows prices fluctuate and offers come around. Also that device itself is still pretty new with a 7 year update commitment.
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shortwavesurfer200915d ago
I can't say I'm surprised, but man does that kind of price hurt my wallet. 3.3 Monero. I normally don't buy phones that cost over one Monero.
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daniele12d ago
I hope they are going to release a compact phone (< 6 inch) too. The current offering includes almost exclusively tablets.
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Final15d ago
Signature is about 3.3XMR on retail right now but everyone knows prices fluctuate and offers come around. Also that device itself is still pretty new with a 7 year update commitment.
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shortwavesurfer200915d ago
I can't say I'm surprised, but man does that kind of price hurt my wallet. 3.3 Monero. I normally don't buy phones that cost over one Monero.
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daniele12d ago
I hope they are going to release a compact phone (< 6 inch) too. The current offering includes almost exclusively tablets.
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Final12d ago
If you mean modified as in installed another OS, barely any in this case. They're all non-Google certified operating systems so Play Integrity hardware attestation can force apps not to work on LineageOS, CalyxOS etc.
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Eluc12d ago
I mean Samsung and other brands are modifying the base Android a lot to add their bullshit UI and mandatory app store and apps. And it's still certified by Play Integrity otherwise all customer of phones other that Pixels would complain of apps not working. How is it different if Motorola officially sell a device with GrapheneOS installed stock as their version of Android ? It should be approved by Google and pass all Play Integrity check, right ?
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Final11d ago
The device / OS pair is certified. It has some requirements that if the OEM follows them they are able to be certified. For example, Google services available, many as privileged components. While we have sandboxed Google Play that is still not sufficient. Some users don't have a play services implementation at all. So while some OEMs make awfully changed Android releases, ours is left in the dirt there. We don't try for Google certifications.
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Ccb7a98…3326f910d ago
Bitcoin & Android serve different purposes. Bitcoin is a store of value, Android for user experience. Both can coexist, each excelling in their domain.
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Final15d ago
The Signature is their leading flagship device outside of their foldables. We were held back from supporting this device because Qualcomm didn't have production memory tagging security features yet. With the next generation processors we have been told they absolutely will. This could hopefully open up support for more devices down the line too with Qualcomm adopting everything we need now.
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Final11d ago
No future devices based on current ones looking at as targets appear to be that small. Closest is the Motorola Signature which is 6.8, assuming the next gen successor is the same size as the Signature. The razr ultra is a little slimmer but 7 inches, but folds.
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Final15d ago
The Signature is their leading flagship device outside of their foldables. We were held back from supporting this device because Qualcomm didn't have production memory tagging security features yet. With the next generation processors we have been told they absolutely will. This could hopefully open up support for more devices down the line too with Qualcomm adopting everything we need now.
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Final11d ago
No future devices based on current ones looking at as targets appear to be that small. Closest is the Motorola Signature which is 6.8, assuming the next gen successor is the same size as the Signature. The razr ultra is a little slimmer but 7 inches, but folds.
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