true, but at the same time, that group forming stuff tends to get hijacked and then the collaboration turns into extractive and violent mobs. i had an experience tonight, and related to it several with another group, and i'm not dealing with groups any more. man to man, the end. i just dropped half a dozen good ideas on people and got things moving, and then an asshat clown shows up and makes a mockery of the whole thing. the one in charge, acted like it's ok for this kind of mockery. i left. and i'm never joining a group again. they are all toxic, not one i have seen in my life that wasn't. nostr has been no exception. a few dozen decent human beings, and a culture that is no less toxic than a society that tolerates central bankers destroying lives and potential.