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Once you understand how #Pubky uses #Kademlia to manifest a mathematically perfect ethereal mesh of resources floating in free space and addressable by public key, all you have to do is close your eyes and make the decision to leave relays behind. Join the public beta at Pubky[dot]app #DistributedSystems #SovereignEngineering #SovEng #mesh #umbrel

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Troy30d ago

How about a resource, or several? 😀

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Analogue Dog30d ago

Sure :) https://pubky.tech/

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cloud fodder30d ago

all good, ya sorry to crash your thread. I did spend a lotta time discussing the architecture with some that had used it, and nobody had run a server or could explain anything about it. do you for example, see anyone on there in your 'feed' from a different homeserver?

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cloud fodder30d ago

i duno, vaporware only typically gets a single chance from me these days. and that was when it was promoted to me.. soh. i assume there is more now, this is first im learning these docs are out of date and the indexer just doesnt exist i guess, which is where i determined the choke point would be for homeservers being part of the known network.. to me it sounded like bsky style where sure, run your own, but if you aren't accepted into the nexus you will just be isolated.

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cloud fodder30d ago

i read it, i watched a 2 hour video about it, i read the docs. less hype, more runners

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cloud fodder30d ago

the truf comes out 😂

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cloud fodder30d ago

you literally didnt read your own marketing slop. the nexus indexer bro. its the whole lynchpin of the supposed discovery that is so superior 😂😂😂

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cloud fodder30d ago

ill check back in a year or two.

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Analogue Dog30d ago

Agreeing to not upload illegal content to someone else's server (etc.) is a prerequisite for app distribution. But you can run your own Pubky homeserver and make your own rules.

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cloud fodder30d ago

yeah, and then run your own nexus aggregator and your own client. saying 'you can just run a homeserver', is not enough for you to avoid their terms. anyway, seems like a lot of services to run, vs nostr you truly can just run a relay. cool story tho. source: https://docs.pubky.org/Architecture

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Analogue Dog30d ago

The client is a web app, and Ed25519 key management can be handled anywhere (inc. hardware devices like Nitrokey). Nexus hasn't even been built yet. ... so a sovereign homeserver negates the necessity to sign-up to anything. You can install Pubky Ring from .apk

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cloud fodder30d ago

oh, huh. so the whole nexus thing, thats not needed? til.

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Analogue Dog30d ago

My understanding of the architecture - which might be wrong since I'm not involved in the project whatsoever - is that the nexus codebase will merely index content in order to make discovery faster. The current position is a mesh of homeservers, leveraging Kademlia... so instead of web-ring, we have homeserver-mesh. But Kademlia mathematically optimises peer connections (based on available resource of each node) to achieve whole-mesh-optimality. I haven't had a chance to spin-up a homeserver yet since I don't have much spare time during winter, but it's on my backlog. I saw in the recent dev call that homeserver admin panel now has a nice clickable user interface... and there's also an Umbrel homeserver app that's either been released or is close to release.

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cloud fodder30d ago

it all seems very hyped for not having it built yet. i dislike when someone promotes something agressively and i go glance at it and there is nothing there to use. (which was the case here when it was advertised to all of nostr, there was no app, the source wasnt published, there was invite only single home server). so i will actively dismiss most projects that do that. its called vaporware, where I'm from. i will hear about it once it is existing, or i wont. that saves me time. once you start running more of the stack i'd be interested in your experience with it.

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