I think we should talk this out over a call. Nostr is not the right place for this because I think you are missing what I am saying and deriving circular logic from the interpretations embedded from my words. I think it would make for an interesting podcast. Nick and I are game to schedule one if you are both interested. The question is not whether logic precedes systems but how could logic exist without a system? They are not separable. Software without hardware is not software. Logic in a vacuum is not logic. Logic must be executed somewhere, across some boundary, through some process that preserves non-contradiction over time. Truth can certainly be present even when logic exists only symbolically (pre-Bitcoin). But until a logical system exists that can execute those rules across time, that truth cannot be demonstrated or preserved canonically. It can be inferred, approximated, or believed, but not proven in a way that endures. Energy needs logic and logic needs energy, and that is the truth. Without a substrate that enforces state transitions, logic remains symbolic. A truth that cannot be preserved across time is not a durable truth. The logic is not circular because the timechain progresses always. It’s not a circle it’s a spiral.