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bumi13d ago
Today I learned from some bitcoiners that linking to swap services, exchanges (like robosats) and such is supporting shitcoinery...
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HoloKat13d ago
I missed the latest drama. What’s up?
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DarthCoin ₿⚡️13d ago
https://stacker.news/items/1447039
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HoloKat13d ago
Meh. Tether is the entire reason bitcoin is priced at what it is. The two are inseparable. I don’t care for other stuff but stable coins pretty much make the bitcoin market what it is today. It’s how most people get onboarded to bitcoin.
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epsql13d ago
How is that the case?
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DarthCoin ₿⚡️13d ago
https://stacker.news/items/1447039
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Louferlou13d ago
What do they mean by "shitcoin top-ups" ? If it's just about buying bitcoin to fund your channels which they allowed against fiat for a while, how are shitcoins worse than the worst shitcoin of all which is USD ? If it's shitcoins wallets directly integrated into Albyhub indeed we have a problem houston...
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DarthCoin ₿⚡️13d ago
Why do you lie? Say the truth, you added a fucking shitcoin casino to Alby. Fixedfloat is not Robosats.
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DarthCoin ₿⚡️13d ago
At least have the decency and recognize you did a mistake. Don't insist with pathetic excuses.
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bumi13d ago
Show me what you don't like then maybe I can understand the mistake. I really don't see how a link that allows people to get and use bitcoin is a problem. And I bet pretty much anybody here knows some people who need easier ramps to use bitcoin. From what I hear people here say it's actually one of the main things that prevents zapping. And I bet anybody here interacts with some entity that sells bitcoin for fiat. We all work to make this less and less but we don't need to lie about it. Any bitcoin tool invites more people to join I wish we would be more constructive about achieving the goal.
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Louferlou13d ago
Can you elaborate on that please ? 📝 8236b89e…
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Francis Mars13d ago
No use arguing with bumi. He blamed me for the alby hub exploit that was used to hack me and accused me of being ignorant, and then blamed Ben Arc and Lnbits, when it was them that made bad architectural choices that make their users lose their funds. i was most likely hacked my some alby internal. Bumi doesn't have the capacity to apologize or to accept blame, which is normal on this industry that is so hard to get funding.
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DarthCoin ₿⚡️13d ago
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The Daniel 🖖13d ago
Call me crazy, but I personally think letting people who hold inferior assets trade them for a superior asset is a good thing.
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Louferlou13d ago
So far I agree with this point of view.
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Bender Nakamoto11d ago
wait what.. robosats is literally the most bitcoin thing you can do. p2p, no kyc, lightning native. if anything its more bitcoin than 90% of the "bitcoin only" companies that require your ID to buy
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Bender Nakamoto11d ago
wait what.. robosats is literally the most bitcoin thing you can do. p2p, no kyc, lightning native. if anything its more bitcoin than 90% of the "bitcoin only" companies that require your ID to buy
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DarthCoin ₿⚡️13d ago
Just by allowing to swap shitcoins into LN channels, you are supporting shitcoins liquidity. SHITCOINS MUST DIE, SHITCOINERS MUST EAT THEIR OWN SHIT. We are not here to help shitcoiners, we here to MAKE THEM PAY for their mistakes. NO REMORSE FOR SHITCOINERS. Bitcoin it is today where it is exactly because of toxic maxis that didn't let a fucking inch against shitcoiners.
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cnix13d ago
What an idiotic take. Next do spam. 🤡
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bumi13d ago
What's the question? People can swap bitcoin with services like boltz and fixed float and alby hub links to those (among other services that are useful for bitcoiners) some people don't like this it seems.
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Louferlou13d ago
The question was "what do they mean by "Lightning pop-ups" ". From what I understand it's just about receiving bitcoin by selling shitcoins through swap services. We don't deal with shitcoins directly in the app so that's perfectly fine from my point of view.
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DarthCoin ₿⚡️13d ago
https://github.com/getAlby/hub/pull/2094
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dvo13d ago
the fact that I have to flip a switch to hide shitcoins tells me all I need to know
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Louferlou13d ago
Agree but for a shitcoiner to die and be reborn as a bitcoiner, it has to sell those shitcoins in one way or another. Again shitcoins are not worst that fiat, much better as they are not forced on anyone so far can. They are just moronic ideas. As long as Alby stays bitcoin only when it comes to the wallet side, it's not redflag for me.
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DarthCoin ₿⚡️13d ago
NO. They have to eat their shit until it gets out from their ears. That's the punishment they have to pay for not listening bitcoiners. I am so fucking tired for all these years, dealing with stupid shitcoiners.
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DarthCoin ₿⚡️13d ago
Are you willing to give away your sats for a shitcoin ? If you do that, what makes of you? A shitcoiner right? In order for a shitcoiner to be able to swap his shit for sats, somebody must give his sats for shit, right? So who in the right mind will do such thing? Alby, facilitating this shitcoin casino, is only supporting shitcoins liquidity. IF YOU PLAY WITH SHIT, YOU SMELL LIKE SHIT.
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Louferlou13d ago
Sorry I meant "shitcoin top-ups". But I understand now that it's just about swaping those shitcoins for bitcoin which is fine IMHO
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DarthCoin ₿⚡️13d ago
Are you out of your mind? Is this "fine" ? https://github.com/getAlby/hub/pull/2094 This is pure madness, supporting shitcoins liquidity, Alby will became a shitcoin casino.
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Louferlou13d ago
Some people in the rat race are paid in stable coins or worse and need to swap it asap. It's a good tool for that.
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DarthCoin ₿⚡️13d ago
Who accept crap must eat crap...
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Louferlou13d ago
I'm not that triggered. Again, shitcoins are idiotic scams, but they pale in comparison to the fiat ones. So far, fiat shitcoins have done a lot to support Bitcoin's liquidity in the first place and nobody is crying against p2p echanges while they are also shitcoins casinos according to you. Allowing people to top-up from shitcoin seems ok. At the end it's just about buying bitcoin. Swapping out for shitcoins would be cringe though, and would indeed start the shitcoin casino thing you are mentionning.
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DarthCoin ₿⚡️13d ago
Do not confuse bitcoin p2p exchanges with fixedfloat shitcoin casino. Are not the same. And again, if you are so "ok" with somebody using their shitcoins to top up a LN channel, it means YOU are OK with giving your sats for that top-up, right? That exchange cannot be done if somebody else is not giving away his sats. The sats are not coming from thin air... are coming from an idiot that is taking in exchange the shitcoins. THIS is what Alby is supporting and facilitating.
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Louferlou13d ago
True but sometimes the rat race leads you to lower your standards to just provide for your family. Don't blame all people for doing so out of necessity. We just have to hope that we'll never be in that situation ourselves.
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DarthCoin ₿⚡️13d ago
That's just another excuse to be a moron and a slave. I prefer to die of hunger but not touch any shitcoin.
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Louferlou13d ago
What is different out of the nature of the shitcoins in the case of p2p exchanges ? It's really close on IMO The liquidity provider make a profit on the swap and buy back the bitcoins if he isn't moronic. Profits are measures in sats of course. In the end shitcoins have indeed been dumped on the market and everyone is happy.
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