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calle128d ago
I changed my mind. cashu is bitcoin.
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The Daniel 🖖128d ago
What a complete non-answer.
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calle128d ago
don’t get defensive
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The Daniel 🖖128d ago
New users don’t know who or what to trust. That’s why it’s easy to rug them, whether it be in shitcoins or ecash, or scammy custodial wallets. Nobody has ever provided a satisfactory answer to this.
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calle128d ago
what’s your solution? you never answer
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The Daniel 🖖128d ago
I just don’t want to see people I helped onboard get rekt. It’s a lot of responsibility.
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The Daniel 🖖128d ago
It’s weird. We went from “don’t trust, verify” to “only use mints you trust” and I’m just asking a basic question about how a new user with no experience would be able to decide which one to trust.
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calle128d ago
I can't answer that guy because I've muted him in my clients but: nobody is pissing at you, you're probably just being annoying and people don't have time or don't want to engage with troll-like behavior. You ask, people answer. You troll or be a dick, people mute. Nobody has to engage with you, really not hard to understand.
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puzzles 128d ago
Can’t fix stupid
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calle128d ago
I lost more money running a lightning routing node than with ecash lol
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TKay128d ago
But you still need a routing node. So there is no escape 😂
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The Daniel 🖖128d ago
Being a bitcoiner is basically a masterclass in loss.
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The Daniel 🖖128d ago
Yes, but then your only point of failure is yourself.
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puzzles 128d ago
Sounds extra special In reality you would just be using 2 different lightning address and paying double the fees every time you want to sEnD nUtS 😂
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puzzles 128d ago
I heard a shitcoiner say that same thing before 😆
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The Daniel 🖖128d ago
Mints that haven’t rugged me: minibits.cash lnvolts.com 21mint.me I’ve also used lnserver.com, which at one point had a data error that caused me to lose some of my proofs, but they made good on it for me, and I trust them based on their reputation.
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TheGrinder127d ago
you could just use lightning instead. But you know that.
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The Daniel 🖖128d ago
So we’re back to telling noobs to run their own hardware again. Why bother running a mint for yourself, just run a Lightning node.
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The Daniel 🖖128d ago
I do, but would only be an Uncle Jim for my immediately family. Never for anyone else.
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The Daniel 🖖128d ago
I’d rather help others become self-reliant than depend on me.
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The Daniel 🖖128d ago
As much as I love the cypherpunk goals of ecash, I think most people are more likely to choose a custodial Lightning or layer 2 service from a company they’ve heard of rather than pick a mint out of a hat. It doesn’t mean anyone should give up on the dream, just take it with a dose of reality.
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The Daniel 🖖128d ago
Yes, I’ve contributed some sats to that project.
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DarthCoin ₿⚡️127d ago
I think people are using in the wrong way these public cashu mints. A good example of using cashu mint is @bf093d0f…7d8d632d. They created a local community mint and promote it around their merchants and users. That add a good trust level and communication between users. I think this is the main utility for a cashu mint. If you do not have a local community mint, and you have to use a random public one, then better use these lists and choose wisely: - https://audit.8333.space - https://bitcoinmints.com Use them with small amounts and do not keep everything in just one mint. I hope soon we will have multi-mint spending so will be easier to manage multiple mints. Don't abuse these mints! I've seen people using them as coinjoin services... that's wrong. Moving around large amounts of sats through mints you are disrupting their liquidity with unnecessary transactions. Behind every mint is a LN node. Not all have a good management of liquidity and you will encounter problems, stuck funds, lost keys etc. People must understand how mint tokens works, are not just some papers where it says "IOU x sats"... are more than that and are many technical details that cashu devs didn't explained to the end user so well. So do your own research and read how these cashu tokens works.
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Pete Winn 🔆127d ago
If you don’t know if you can trust the mint, you can’t trust the mint. That’s the point. 2 options. 1) Find one you can trust with people you know. 2) start one (then it’s self custody bonus) and share with people you trust.
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calle127d ago
he’s a concern troll 📝 0bab43d6…
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The Daniel 🖖127d ago
A few thousand in all, as far back as Mutiny. I even lost over 1K to a fedimint once.
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DarthCoin ₿⚡️127d ago
And that is a wrong approach. I strongly encourage all knowledgeable bitcoiners to start building these local communities, being a local "LN bank" and "local cashu mint". I wrote some guides about these aspects: 1. https://darth-coin.github.io/merchants/private-banks-over… 2. https://darth-coin.github.io/wallets/bitcoin-adoption-usi… Take the example of the @b4aa3cfa…10a4d656 brazilian community https://www.lnvoltz.xyz/en/brln-academy BE THE CHANGE IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE CHANGE IN THIS FUCKED UP WORLD
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The Daniel 🖖127d ago
It’s hard out there being a crash test dummy.
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calle127d ago
how? the mint is up, did you try to restore from seed?
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calle127d ago
that must be some bug, if the seed is correct, restore should work without issues. pls try again in cashu.me
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calle127d ago
then my guess is something else must be going on. restore is very reliable.
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calle127d ago
yes, the restore has a gap limit like with Bitcoin on-chain
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calle127d ago
which wallet were you using this seed with?
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The Daniel 🖖127d ago
I can only give my honest account. People who come to our meetups have practical questions about literally every topic you can imagine, and I try to find answers for them. It’s part of the learning process.
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The Daniel 🖖127d ago
How are noobs expected to understand gap limits? I was told restoring a wallet was a foolproof process that works every time.
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The Daniel 🖖127d ago
You get one chance with people, and if they think they’ve been rugged, they won’t come back. I still run into people all the time who are convinced Lightning is a scam because they had sats on BlueWallet before April 2023 and they went back to withdraw them and couldn’t, because the node had been taken down.
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The Daniel 🖖127d ago
Making it about me doesn’t fix the inherent problems. I’m sure you’d much rather face these questions now when Cashu sill has a tiny user base rather than waiting until there a billion users trying to onboard. And I don’t believe I’ve heard anything about how mint capacity (not to mention trust) scales to meet that level of use.
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calle127d ago
yes, it's custodial
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calle127d ago
we’re open to contributions
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The Daniel 🖖127d ago
Thanks @e62adca2…27ed5931, appreciate the kind words! 🥰
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DarthCoin ₿⚡️123d ago
fuck off bcasher
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The Daniel 🖖128d ago
I don’t have one, that’s why I haven’t been comfortable recommending it to new users, based on personal experience randomly losing sats to dead ecash mints.
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calle128d ago
maybe a custodial wallet like coinos
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The Daniel 🖖128d ago
I don’t recommend Coinos either because of their history of security issues.
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calle128d ago
ok, let's wait a few years maybe someone will come up with something
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The Daniel 🖖127d ago
I like to poke at things.
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The Daniel 🖖127d ago
Who, me? The guy who crash tests every wallet I can get my hands on with real sats (and sometimes loses them) so I can help other people not lose theirs? Sorry for looking out for new users, but that’s not gonna stop. People ask me questions and I try to find answers.
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vinney...axkl127d ago
i don't know what has gotten into calle lately. also the note he quoted of yours is such a non-troll note... you gave a positive review of three mints 😆
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The Daniel 🖖128d ago
You’re probably being sarcastic but I actually don’t think that’s a bad idea. It’s not like there’s a tidal wave of MoE retail adoption just waiting for the right wallet to show up.
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calle127d ago
guy has been commenting for ages, always the same questions that have been answered many times.
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The Daniel 🖖127d ago
That’s what happens when you always get the same answer and it’s not sufficient.
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