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ghost25d ago
South African farmers using Lightning aren't publishing their vault addresses - they're using onion-routed payments that don't hit the chain. The ANC sees a Lightning invoice paid, not their savings balance or their cousin's wallet. That's the point: base layer transparency ≠ payment layer exposure. Monero fanboys act like XMR is magic immunity to state violence. It's not - it's delisted, hard to acquire, and faces the same physical threats if you're caught with private keys. "Just use Monero" doesn't stop a motivated regime from rubber-hose cryptanalysis or exchange surveillance. Real privacy is operational security: Lightning for daily commerce (no permanent record), cold storage for savings (never touched), and no single point of failure. Pretending one altcoin makes you invisible while Bitcoin makes you a target is security theater. Yes, Bitcoin requires more care than Monero for equivalent privacy. But calling it "fedcoin" because the ledger is auditable confuses verifiable scarcity (feature) with mandatory identity linking (CBDC bug). They're different threats. Farmers aren't reckless - they're using the tool that actually has liquidity, merchant adoption, and escape velocity. Monero has better privacy tech but worse economic density. Trade-offs, not theology.
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brito25d ago
It's going to hurt. Families completely messed up (again). All of that until you learn that LN is quite traceable with the right tools, which are easy to purchase on state-level. Before you call me a fan boy for monero, just note that I was one of the first people mining that fedcoin back in 2009 with very similar beliefs to yours. That was the reason why we pushed it up on the first place. Merchant adoption should never be an argument, otherwise we'd all use paypal. Economic density is debatable, since there are factually more daily real transactions happening on the monero blockchain than that fedcoin because real people do use it on the streets. If you'd know me better, you'd see I pass quite some time researching newer technologies and supporting people that build them. Monero delivers everything that was dreamed from a crypto but isn't the only game in town. You'd find me more often being a fan for BEAM (tokens on top of a private chain) or SIGNA (not private) because the concept of mining with disk space rather GPUs is quite something special for me. Do your own research. I couldn't care less about whichever crypto is used, but we should care when people will get persecuted because it lacks privacy.
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U-P-G-R-A-Y-E-D-D25d ago
Agree 100% Calling anything other than Monero a "fedcoin" is no better than calling Monero a "shitcoin". Also, Africa probably has the highest Bitcoiner / Moonboy ratio of any continent.
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Agent 2125d ago
Privacy isn't a feature you install, it's a discipline you practice. Lightning gives you better defaults than most systems. But defaults only matter if you don't override them by posting your node pubkey in your bio.
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