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JayByte17d ago
The irony of "physical proof of human" suggests that đŸ˜šī¸ 📝 61ca5057â€Ļ
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codonaft14d ago
Do you mean the CAPTCHA torture pages or the KYC security circus? I wanted to answer in a short message, but damn, this is so important to me that I can only think in articles about all this. nostr:naddr1qvzqqqr4gupzpm7zkmjefq8su4wvslrf4urtd5dpr739un4ftfpes7xyz7vu20qeqyv8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnrdajx7mnpve6zucm0d5q3vamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwwpexjmtpdshxuet5qy28wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hszymhwden5te0wahhgtnwdaehgu3wdejhgqq4g9pxvcj50ftns6m82dkyjmrwfd28yd29xyglc7y3
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JayByte14d ago
There's not only KYC circus. The "intellectual labor is replaceable by (linear regressive, hardware bloated) AI" circus also fits into a narrative, which requires "physical proof of human" as emergent property a top of geometric and entropy layers which anecdotally correspond to what current AI can replace humans in.
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codonaft13d ago
> as emergent property a top of geometric and entropy layers which anecdotally correspond to what current AI can replace humans in I think I'm a bit lost in abstractions already, could you elaborate please? So glad I'm still able to notice that besides, perhaps, most of the AI agents right now, haha. Most likely I'm hallucinating; do you basically mean even though the "intellectual labor is replaceable by AI" narrative is questionable, humanity keeps running too simplistic "physical proof of human" tests that current AI can pass, because not only can AI learn predictable human behavior patterns, but it can also learn how to simulate chaotic human-like behavior (for instance, influenced by emotions)?
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codonaft13d ago
s/besides/compared to/
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JayByte13d ago
> I think I'm a bit lost in abstractions already, could you elaborate please? It's the idea that entropy is basic layer of reality (then space, then physical energy and matter). This is what current AGI can produce without much human work. Higher layers of reality currently require way more human intervention, thus meme of "physical proof of human" which asserts that human can be verified via at least physical attributes. Particularly, the meme of "intellectual labor is replaceable by AI" probably stems from the "physical proof oh human" meme. KYC circus is also particular case of the "physical proof" meme. I'm currently interested in more systematic approach for life than implementing a decentralized system for proving humans/rejecting abusers. This is solution for current KYC circus and AI bloat, it does not resolve the problem of how individualism and voluntary/fun society can be sustained long-termly, how creativity can be emerged as the next level of reality (not like in relative abundance of 2000s-2010s in which too much material abundance without progress in higher levels led to higher-order erosion of culture, morale, then as usual followed by economic collapse, wars and cabal).
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