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cryptowolf11d ago
The “Proton is fully compromised” take is just noise. Nothing got hacked, nothing got backdoored. Swiss courts did what Swiss courts do: they forced Proton to hand over metadata tied to an account — payment info, login timestamps, IP logs. The encrypted inbox stayed encrypted. The real issue is people mixing up encryption with anonymity. Proton protects your messages. It does not protect your identity. If your account is tied to a normal, traceable payment method, that breadcrumb exists — and a court can demand it. That’s not a breach, that’s jurisdiction. And yeah, if the account had been funded with non‑linkable Bitcoin, there wouldn’t have been payment metadata to hand over. Not because of anything shady — just because you can’t leak what you never collected. That’s the whole point of minimizing data exhaust. So the TL;DR for Nostr: ProtonMail = good encryption, zero anonymity Metadata = the real snitch Bitcoin = privacy depends on how you use it Threat models = not optional Use the right tool for the job, or the job will use you.
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vinney...axkl11d ago
lnemail.net (also: use this to sign up for other emails anonymously)
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Zsubmariner11d ago
Assume compromise. Period. Don't trust verify. I can't verify shit about proton
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𝕞ptf11d ago
Not just payment, but your IP too
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Mot₿C Podcast 11d ago
Thanks for the TLDR
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Ingwie Phoenix (aka. birb)9d ago
Had to scroll so far down to find this. Finally osmeone who gets it...
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ThatWhichisNotSeen9d ago
proton is a monumental improvement for users compared to what 99% of people are using and minimizes the footguns if they were to try any of the services they provided self-hosted. Great product and service, people should not let perfection distract from better.
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