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Zsubmariner16d ago
A nation is a people not a border. There is no Catholic reason for it that I can see, but I haven't read the brief. I'm sure they make an argument from charity, but charity for whom? Given the USCCB's questionable involvement with certain funding channels, I would prefer they stay out of it and tend to the salvation of souls. We need good bishops who are not beholden to the civil authority. Hard to do when the faithful are economic slaves but that just makes it more important to do.
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Father Nick Blaha15d ago
Agreed.on all points, but I am wondering what the administration arguing to justify it. Is it that birthright citizenship provides an incentive? My understanding is that this amendment was intended to address the effects of slavery, which is a kind of forced immigration, but that's not what we are dealing with here. Is that the argument? 🤷‍♂️
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Laeserin15d ago
But a nation is a territory (i.e. a property) that houses a particular people _and their guests_. I don't think it's very Christian to toss your guests out onto the street, if they are generally well-behaved. But I also think you should control who you allow in as a guest, and you should punish all uninvited guests. I don't think automatic deportation is the appropriate punishment for most uninvited guests. They aren't usually a threat to the nation, so banishment is a punishment unfitting the crime. They should have to plead guilty for trespassing, pay a hefty fine, and apply for a formal invitation, or something, with the nation withholding the right to deny it and deport. Children (those under 18 or still attending secondary school) and pregnant women should not be deported, even if they misbehave, as they are protected classes. I think we need more nuance in the whole discussion.
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Ryan Reynolds15d ago
‘We need good bishops’. Yes, we do. Unfortunately we don’t have all that many. We have a few very good ones, a larger number of awful ones, and the vast majority who, if they weren’t bishops/priests would likely be mid-level management in government or non profits. Lord have mercy.
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