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vinney...axkl14d ago
Am I doing something wrong, or does Alex have some source of cheap tokens? My openclaw experiments indicate that "political dissidents" would be thousands of dollars in the hole per month to Anthropic if they used their claws to do anything significant. Don't get me wrong, the possibilities are exciting - but the price tag seems prohibitive for anything other than luxury use for now? 📝 1caf2855…
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mleku14d ago
idk but at $200/month claude max 20x i could produce way more text than i could actually read, as it is, i spend more of that resource writing code. claude is actually the cheapest LLM i have found. i blew 200 my first month using cursor, and got less done than i could do with the $100/month 5x max, by maybe a factor of 100. what i have now is at least 4x that.
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vinney...axkl14d ago
maybe i'm on the wrong plan or something. i keep getting api recharge invoices every few hours and it's making me wonder how anyone is doing this
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Zsubmariner14d ago
I tried to get a sense, based on token usage trends and real costs of resources, what heavy AI use would probably cost if it wasn't subsidized. Came up with 15k per month per worker. Get it while the getting's good. Not sure if the bubble will burst before costs fall and productivity results get a lot better, but it looks that way
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Diacone Frost14d ago
idk, but with opencode, I spend like nothing. I built 3 fully functional (and actually good) web apps, without writing a single line of code, and it cost me $20. I mostly use gpt 5.1 codex mini for coding and grok-4 fast for planning (or codex mini only). for one pet project I use local models only (still impressive results) and electricity bill is likely going to be more expensive 🤣
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gladstein13d ago
Sponsoring a dissident at $200/month is a great deal Plus Anthropic is giving out free tokens to non profits But ideally this ends with local models
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mleku14d ago
i wish they had a few more brackets but at the same time, the feeling of "well, what crazy intensive reasoning can i deploy this tool for today" is kinda liberating. probably mbost users can get by with the $100/month plan but it was shortly after 4.5 came out, and then i started to push that boundary as well, that i realised that i love using this tool. i don't just use it for code, i use it for structuring my intuition, researching obscure subjects in biology, theology, metaphysics, geopolitics, psychology, physics and mathematics. for me, that freedom of being able to just go "i'm bored with this now, and i want to do x" and without the fat allocation i would be stuck economising.
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vinney...axkl14d ago
i dig it
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vinney...axkl14d ago
this seems right to me
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vinney...axkl13d ago
agreed wholeheartedly about points one and two! the middle one makes me a tad uneasy - as we've learned who the product is when you get it for free..
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